Our good friend Patrick McGuire, the managing editor for VICE Canada, recently sat down with Ronald Deibert, Canada's foremost cybersurveillance expert. They talked about CSEC, why many Canadians don't appear to be concerned by CSEC, and how Ronald became such a notable expert in the world of online spying. If you were ever curious about how and why the government monitors the internet, their conversation is a great watch.